Thursday, August 23, 2012

Ambit or Fenix as Ultra-Trail watch

This is not intended as a review for either one of the two GPS watches the Suunto Ambit and the Garmin Fenix but rather my personal pro and con list how well they are suited for me as an ultra runner.

For review and more stuff about GPS watches a good place to look for is at http://www.dcrainmaker.com.


My requirements:

  • very long battery life
  • option to charge the device while using it
  • GPS track log (option to customize GPS acquire/recording interval)
  • GPS course navigation
  • Altimeter/Barometer, Temperature, Compass
  • Along with GPS comes the basic sport or training watch functions like stopwatch, pace, distance, etc.
  • Connection to PC usb, serial, wireless? Ability to get tracks off the watch from Linux computer
  • Option for HR monitor (optional training effect, RR interval recording)
  • Multiple customizable screens to display any information required
  • Durable, Waterresistant,  ...

As of today (2012-08-23) the Fenix is not yet available and an announced but crucial update for the Ambit is still to be released.
The original Ambit does not allow for course navigation as it is known from the Forerunner series. That was one reason for me not to buy an Ambit so far. In my following list of pros and cons on the two watches I take into account the fact that Suunto announced an update that will get this feature (breadcrum course navigation) into the Ambit (together with support for ANT+ devices so one could use Garmins HR belt). It is yet unknown how many trackpoints would be supported for any given course. The Forerunners as well as the Fenix allow up to 10.000 trackpoints (yes this is important to know).


Lets step through the important features ....

Battery Life

Both offer up to 50 hours operating time with GPS enabled. On both watches it seems there's only two settings for the recording interval (something in the range of 1sec and 60sec). This of course will effect total time of operation ranging from about 15-16 hours with max numbers of GPS locations recorded or the before mentioned 50h at 1 minute intervals.
For me I would like to see that this setting is further customizable by the user e.g. in the range from 1sec up to 5 min. in lets say 10sec increments. With this I can decide myself on track accuracy vs. battery life.
 Ambit +1
 Fenix  +1

Course Navigation

Only time will tell. From the specs and reviews it might look the same or at least very similar. I just have some awkward feeling about this when I think about my Forerunner 910XT. Some readers are probably aware of the fact that Garmin just screwed up on that feature with the 910xt and still have no fix for it. I find this particularly bad because this just works on the FR305 and I really don't  understand what the heck they tried to improve here!
Anyways to me another standoff.
 Ambit +1
 Fenix  +1

Altitude

One of the features that I really wanted was a barometric altimeter. If you look at the elevation profile recorded by an FR 305 you know what I mean.
And in addition I wanted to have the accumulated ascent at hand. This is again something the 910XT is suppose to have ... but again this does not work as expected. As the Fenix is not yet out it's difficult to make a statement here. But dcrainmaker who actually has a unit for testing reported that Garmin is still doing hardware changes (and a lot of firmware updates). One hardware issues was related to barometer function. So let's just hope they do it right this time.
Suunto on the other side is very well know for very accurate elevation measurements on their watches (even without any GPS calibration options...maybe that's the reason?).
So In terms of barometer and at this stage I would include compass and temperature as well I would think that Suunto might do a better job.
 Ambit +1
 Fenix  +0.5

Sport Watch features

The Fenix is announced as an outdoor watch that should combine functions from their GPS navigation devices (like Dakota, eTrex, or Oregon) and stuff you find on a Forerunner (without multisport support). The Ambit offers a good set of functions including the training effect algorithm and ability to store RR-intervals (used to further analyze how good your training is, how well you are recovered, ...). This is the same thing as the 910XT has but it is said that the Fenix will miss quite some of this functionality. This means the Fenix would have very limited options to support a certain form of training but it does support heartreate monitoring in general.
 Ambit +1
 Fenix  +0.5

Connectivity

I'm a Linux user. It's like that ... I do have one harddisk where I can boot some Windows XP but it's slow and outdated. And besides putting courses or firmware updates on the 910XT I really do not have any need for it at the moment.
So it is very important to me that I can have any kind of tool available to at least do basic stuff like downloading my runs from the watch.
This works with FR305 and FR910XT (yeah with 910xt there are still limitations)
So here the information that the Fenix offers USB connection is very promising. As long as the watch would act as e.g. a mass storage device or something under linux. So it would simply be a matter of mount and copy to get activities from or to the watch. However it is not yet confirmed that it will work this way. I know there's an option to store tracks as FIT files or GPX.
Suunto afaik requires a windows application and movescout account. But there're also stand-alone tools that can download tracks from the Ambit but again Windos or Mac only ...
With the Suunto update coming along at least it should be able to use any kind of ANT+ devices to connect to it. Not sure if that would help in track downloading.
The Fenix, in addition to ANT+, has BT 4.0 (Bluetooth low energy). Not sure yet what features initially will exploit the BT stack but the options seem endless. Just consider the ability to use it as a bluetooth GPS mouse and connect to PC/Laptop or any mobile device not yet equipped with GPS, I think this is rather cool.
 Ambit +1
 Fenix  +2


Summary

Ambit:  5
Fenix:   5
This currently matches my feelings about those two devices. If I had to choose one now I really do not know which one to go for. So far I was very happy with Garmin and the FR305. The 305 had issues and I had it replaced twice and got a brand new device. But with the 910xt disaster (yes that's what it is to me) my opinion on Garmin slightly changed.
But I would like to at least wait for the in-depth review of it from dcrainmaker and probably wait until there's some feedback in the forums.
Same holds true for the Ambit. I have to wait for feedback from users how well the announced update really works and if the course navigation is comparable to the one on the Fenix.


I'll probably update this once I have further information ...

4 comments:

kaizo clark said...

Installing the gps tracking device in Suunto, my most favorite watch in the world, is quite hard but the very same thing that made it so cool.

Hamish said...

There seems to be nothing available for linux connectivity on the Ambit, while the fenix is indeed USB mass storage as the other devices are. While I would prefer to try another vendor for a change (I have a couple of Garmin Edge cycling computers already), lack of linux connectivity is a show stopper for me.

rolf schatzmann said...

I'm using a Garmin Fenix with my Linux machine. Previously I had a 305 running under Linux and the a 310XT. The fenix is supported by the awesome garmin plugin for Linux (http://www.andreas-diesner.de/garminplugin/doku.php?id=start) so I can use Garmin connect to upload and download data directly from the watch.
I was also able to replace the base map with one generated by OpenStreet Map and so whilst the tiny screen is not exactly optimal for viewing maps I am able to have all the info I could want shown.
The Fenix had a lot of bugs in the firmware originally, but now with the latest version it is awesome, it does everything you could possibly want and is stable with a good battery life, it truly is an Ambit killer at last.

Andreas Loeffler said...

Thx Rolf for your comment! I'm still looking at the Fenix but reading the garmin forum it seems there's still a bit of an issue regarding battery life ... could you state if running Fenix in "navigation" mode and recording GPS trackpoints in some reasonable interval will be possible for at least over 24 hours?

Can you also confirm that you can operate the watch "as usual" while having it attached to the charging clip?
I found this very useful with the 305, it recently run for over 48h non-stop while I was using it to breadcrumb-navigate along a course ... the only limitation here is the GPS trackpoint storage this starts to get overwritten (without notice) after about 118h or 16k points ... so you continuously have pace/time/distance correctly shown and have the totals at the end but the downloaded track has only gps trackpoints for about the last 130km of that course.

I just read about an Ambit2 with more memory and Suuntos approach to (easily?) program you own apps ... of course this is way cool but as long as it means running everything under windows it's really not an option right now.
Probably a feature Garmin could easily add to the Fenix as well ...